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No, Vault-Tec DID NOT START the Great War of 2077 | Fallout Lore
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The release of the Fallout TV series reignited debate in the community about how the Great War of 2077 started. After seeing that infamous boardroom meeting in Episode 8, many of us concluded that Vault-tec was responsible for launching the nukes.
But not so fast - because not everything is as it seems. And this rabbit hole goes much deeper than I could’ve imagined.
In this video, we’re going to explore why Vault-tec was not responsible for dropping the bombs and starting the Great War of 2077. We’re going to debunk some of the most widespread theories stating that Vault-tec did it, including that infamous board room scene from the TV show, a particular bomb in Megaton, and much more.
0:00 Introduction
0:48 Vault-Tec's Plan to Drop the Big One
3:51 Would Barb Really Nuke Her Daughter?
4:31 Mr. House and the Platinum Chip
6:38 The Logo on the Megaton Bomb
9:22 China Started the Great War of 2077
10:19 General Zao and the Yangtze
11:05 Sino-American War Prior to the Nukes
12:04 China Discovers FEV Research
12:54 Conclusion
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  • @chillDude_chills
    @chillDude_chills 43 секунди тому

    in fallout 2, theres a terminal that states it was an a.i. that initiated the bombs

  • @tastethecock5203
    @tastethecock5203 2 хвилини тому

    why do people even like this show, its shallow and has little to do with fallout, its just some family drama BS. Writing is si incoherent that people have to cope by making these kind of lawyering videos. Ask yourselves a question - why would writers actively choose for vault tec to tease with the idea of starting the great war with stupid reasoning they had?

  • @GamerTime_2002
    @GamerTime_2002 15 хвилин тому

    Yeah I had no idea that the brotherhood can get involved during far harbor

  • @jezcoles5564
    @jezcoles5564 23 хвилини тому

    Mr House was still able to defend Vegas without the chip. Which points to Mr House just like The Enclave having prior knowledge to when the bomb would be dropped. It's possible that things didn't happen in the time scale possible. That China launched due to Vault Tec passing on information. There are plausible reasons for everything. Her family may of still been in LA as he may have split from his wife. Cooper had fallen on hardtimes and doing kids birthdays. So denying that Vault Tec and other corporation had a hand in the end of the world is absurd. Does it not cross your mind one of those corporations in that meeting could have passed on information?

  • @CeeDoubleU
    @CeeDoubleU 26 хвилин тому

    In my playthrough, I had the Legion put Benny and I in a cage and let us fight to the death

  • @hanchienchou1793
    @hanchienchou1793 51 хвилина тому

    recently bought ME Legendary Edition, I need to know about ME2 NG+. Do i lose a lot of goodies when play ME2 NG+ compare to import from ME1. Cause the original ME2 is better u import from ME1 rather than playing ME2 NG+, so i was wondering for Legendary edition did they fix it or not?

  • @Nerd_Neck
    @Nerd_Neck Годину тому

    [ Everyone disliked that ] [ You are now enemy’s with, well… whoever’s left.]

  • @st.anselmsfire3547
    @st.anselmsfire3547 Годину тому

    I'm going to get into some real world nuclear stuff here, stuff that influenced Fallout. It's about the Nuclear Triad. There are three parts to the triad: ground-launched missiles in silos, bombs dropped from planes, and bombs launched from submarines. In the games, it is clear that China launched and struck most of the silos. But the US launched from submarines, which, even in real life, have more than enough power to obliterate both Russia and China. At this point, the world is basically screwed. The strikes and counterstrikes keep going until the world looks like what you see. In real life, there was a major concern that Trump, being a retard who thought nuking hurricanes was a good idea, might spook China into doing a first strike. So, they bribed him into loving them, and that worked until he decided that the only way to deflect blame for his mishandling of COVID was to blame China for it. Again, this led to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff having to promise his counterparts in Russia and China that he was taking the keys away and Trump couldn't launch during a temper tantrum. If this hadn't happened, China likely would've launched a preemptive strike. All of this is public information. So, this is how real life can influence the evolving lore of Fallout. Sleep well.

  • @necrassarcen5986
    @necrassarcen5986 Годину тому

    I’ve gotta know, what gun are you using at 23:55?

  • @st.anselmsfire3547
    @st.anselmsfire3547 Годину тому

    The only power player who was 100% ready for the Great War was the Enclave (President was already in hiding, Poseiden Energy Rig was fully up and running, etc.). I think they're sticking with Vault-Tec was preparing to launch, but China and the Enclave found out and decided to strike first. Of course, "striking first" meant striking at the same time.

  • @obtainibleslayer5875
    @obtainibleslayer5875 Годину тому

    Still can’t fuck a bear. 😔

  • @chains2660
    @chains2660 Годину тому

    Possible theory, they could persuade or pressure the us government not to sign any peace treaty with china and keep the war ongoing which would force them to launch the nuke as a last ditch effort so the nuclear war can become reality.

  • @kylejames1766
    @kylejames1766 Годину тому

    Sheesh did Joe Biden edit this? Did you kill anything but a white person? It's okay to shoot someone and not edit it out holy hell

  • @Jesse12489
    @Jesse12489 Годину тому

    Why did the war started when the bombs dropped 2077 when there was already a war and when did the War end? Did it start and end on day 1? Who won? What about UK or other countries?

  • @freddiebenson-_-926
    @freddiebenson-_-926 Годину тому

    I can’t stop laughing at this entire vid. Just his character sitting there at 35:30 makes me laugh 😂

  • @dfoleyusa
    @dfoleyusa Годину тому

    Killing father with a fat man center mass - 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @jayd5715
    @jayd5715 Годину тому

    If you really think about it the reason for the mega ton bomb being where it is is obvious it was a missfire by either america or china thats why the bomb isnt in some pre war city, and no this isnt unrealistic america already missfired a few nukes from a bomber and who know how many missfires china and russia had in our time line.

  • @lonewolf7186
    @lonewolf7186 Годину тому

    I buckled up and had an iced coffee, but now I can't sleep. Well at least I can join the institute

  • @NS_Voice
    @NS_Voice 2 години тому

    the whole last episode is stupid. There would be no earning potential in the end of the world because there's no one left to sell to. Vault-tec is more like an insurance company, they shouldn't want the end of the world just how an insurance company doesn't want you to actually need them so they can keep making money off of doing nothing. Not to mention Mr. house spend a mountain's worth to save New Vegas and still wanted to do more to save it.

  • @viazzi91
    @viazzi91 2 години тому

    Oh no, betraying Cito is worse than having Dogmeat die in Fallout 3!

  • @forrestredd2706
    @forrestredd2706 2 години тому

    Piper standing in the background, silent, watching as you pour a full bucket of chaos onto the lives of innocent people.

  • @musicilike69
    @musicilike69 2 години тому

    P.A.M.

  • @vagabond560
    @vagabond560 2 години тому

    I fuck with this dude heavy

  • @wilomica
    @wilomica 2 години тому

    I agree with this. The show does not suggest it was Vault Tec. They were going to but someone did it before they were ready IMO.

  • @furyan9850
    @furyan9850 2 години тому

    They had planned it and had a bomb or few to start but the war started ahead of schedule hence why 2 vaults wasn’t finished in construction in fallout 4 (spoilers) which is how Hank knew of the location of a nuclear bomb that he used to destroy shady sands because it didn’t get put into action, I’ll add shady sands are the descendants of a vault that did reclamation day over a hundred years beforehand which was part of vault tec plans so Hank derailed their own goals

  • @6lbs._onion
    @6lbs._onion 2 години тому

    Preston really do be doin' hard copium (56:30)

  • @beircheartaghaistin2332
    @beircheartaghaistin2332 2 години тому

    Just a reminder. This show is canon alongside the games.

  • @stargazerpearl
    @stargazerpearl 3 години тому

    you can talk to the dead to art and make sure to be able to do the thaniel questline! (its for ppl who skipped last light inn)

  • @BLKM4NTI5
    @BLKM4NTI5 3 години тому

    I see Brick as more fit tor rule, and the lesser of two evils. Maelstrom's on sight, on principle, regardless of who's running the gang, though. Brick managed to grab the Militech gear, which I respect either as Streetkid or Corpo, he tries to get Ellis, his boy, to safety knowing shit is going down with Royce, and he would honor the deal he's made with the fixers, unlike Royce, who had to learn by getting domed for being tactless in a negotiation, trying to bend it with intimidation and iron pointed to a merc's head. Brick lives, in my book, but we're good only when it comes to business. His goons are my lunch, just because of what Maelstrom stands for.

  • @joeschmidt246
    @joeschmidt246 3 години тому

    "And preston will go back to being completely useless" lol. Garvey......Garvey never changes.

  • @TheTutore
    @TheTutore 3 години тому

    Okay, I was mostly unsurprised by the comic book villain stuff. But the second you shot Kent and there was actual dialogue for that, I was floored lmao. Why would they ever think anyone would do that. I'm amazed

  • @AdVictoriamBOS
    @AdVictoriamBOS 3 години тому

    The Chinese launched first in Fallout because they were losing and desperate to begin with

  • @PenguinzAreAwesome
    @PenguinzAreAwesome 3 години тому

    to be fair the logo on the bomb doesn't really matter if your plan is to kill everyone and start over. who cares who knows if the only people left are your people?

  • @unknowngamer37415
    @unknowngamer37415 3 години тому

    12:32 for a lot of the settlement missions you can actually just kill the settlers and go talk to press and after. (You get the settlement but I don't know if it counts towards the minimum settlements you need for the castle and defend the castle quests)

  • @dothersider7511
    @dothersider7511 3 години тому

    FANTASTIC GAME! VEGAS SUCKS! SORRY!

  • @micktompson101
    @micktompson101 3 години тому

    Always having the worst takes when it comes to fallout..

  • @Trignama1
    @Trignama1 3 години тому

    The amount of stupid ass minigames you have to do is completely asinine and are in no way shape or form fun to engage in. Literally ruins the entire experience.

  • @chengkuoklee5734
    @chengkuoklee5734 4 години тому

    Yes, they did not start the war; No, they did their best to make sure the war is inevitable.

  • @t3chbr0shadow
    @t3chbr0shadow 4 години тому

    "The crazy rich people surely arent crazy."

  • @Tapestry1138
    @Tapestry1138 4 години тому

    Vault tec did it on orders from the Enclave. Fucking duh. The lore says common knowledge of the Enclave's existence was about to be public. Who do you think she was nodding to in that boardroom in that meeting. Really. Are you all too stupid to read subtext? Never mind I already know you are.

  • @nsp477
    @nsp477 4 години тому

    To me, the suggestion that the corporations dropped the first bombs sounded like an attempt to not offend audiences on both sides of the pond.

  • @Re3Ns
    @Re3Ns 4 години тому

    Gonna start a new playthrough soon as a dark urge, where I will humiliate Astarion at every opportunity and in every possible way.

  • @tophus5583
    @tophus5583 4 години тому

    There is a very interesting fan made conversation by "Courier's Gambit" here on UA-cam between The Courier and Mr. House about this topic. It also explains House's involvement and perspective in a very lore-friendly way.

  • @skoomaaddict256
    @skoomaaddict256 4 години тому

    nick oppenheimer

  • @saschaberger3212
    @saschaberger3212 4 години тому

    You can cope all you want. It's obvious that this is the way Bethesda intended. You can keep looking for Plot holes forever but it won't change anything.... They hold the IP, they planed this, this is cannon now. Get over it

  • @youdontneedtoknow106
    @youdontneedtoknow106 4 години тому

    Everyone please do not download opera GX i had it and it RUINED MY COMPUTER!!! i looked at a thread and it happens to alot of people and its a Chinese corporation that owns it so two things are clear it steals your data AND IT DESTROYS YOUR DANG COMPUTER NOT EVEN A FRESH RESTALL OF WINDOWS FULLY FIXED THE PROBLEM IT FRICKIN MESSED UP MY GPU!!!!!!!! PLEASE PEOPLE DONT TRUST IT!

  • @x64600
    @x64600 4 години тому

    Show Writers room logic is a square peg. The Canon lore is a round hole. To them it doesn't matter if it fits, they will hammer it in like a 🤢 green skin with a new toy. 😂

  • @Shanglioftheanicentyangdynasty
    @Shanglioftheanicentyangdynasty 4 години тому

    50:30 😂😂 nick is Oppenheimer

  • @razielvingrimm
    @razielvingrimm 4 години тому

    Here's the thing. It's their damn game. They can say exactly what they want. It was vault tec. That makes sense. Especially how clearly evil the corporation was. What your missing. In our real world, there are literally evil corporations starting wars and making money from both sides. For example Black Rock and Vanguard help burn it down and then get government contracts to build back better.

  • @Rowan-ie6pf
    @Rowan-ie6pf 4 години тому

    with drumlin diner, it's not really evil to kill trudy. wolfgang is completely in the right there, and they do owe him money that's rightfully his. the only real way to be evil in that side quest is to get all the money from wolfgang, kill trudy, and then just kill wolfgang anyways